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Deep Thinkers

Beyond practical agriculture lies a deeper realm where farming becomes philosophy. The Real Organic Podcast explores this territory through conversations with agriculture’s most profound thinkers. These visionaries recognize the sacred relationship between humans and soil that transcends conventional boundaries. They explore how our treatment of land reflects our relationships with time, community, and the cosmos itself. Our guests challenge listeners to become stewards rather than extractors, partners rather than masters of the natural world. Discussions range from mystical fungi-forest connections to the ethical implications of soil health for future generations. These episodes weave ancient wisdom with cutting-edge science, revealing how agricultural practices either honor or disrupt natural systems. Our conversations invite you to reimagine agriculture not merely as production but as participation in something greater. Farming becomes a continuous dialogue between human consciousness and the living earth from which we emerged and remain inextricably bound.

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Anthony Suau: Filming the Chemical Takeover of Food Read More
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Sharon Lerner: PFAs In Food Read More
Hugh-Kent, a smiling man with graying hair and a beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #219."
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Hugh Kent: Hydroponics Is Not Organic Farming Read More
Matthew Ingram, a man with dark hair and round glasses, smiles in front of bookshelves for the "Real Organic Podcast #218."
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Matthew Ingram: Counterculture’s Role In Organic Food Read More
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Renee Lertzman: Successful Activism With Project Inside Out Read More
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Marcelo Gleiser: Escaping Extinction: There’s No Place Like Earth Read More
Daniel O'Connell, a man with glasses and a graying beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #189".
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Daniel O’Connell: Industrial Ag’s Rapid Degradation of California Read More
Mark Schatzker, a smiling man with dark curly hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #185".
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Mark Schatzker: Blocked Cravings + The Failures Of Food Enrichment Read More
Tim Wise, a light-skinned man with short gray hair, speaks at a table with a laptop and microphone for the "Real Organic Podcast #175".
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Tim Wise: Today’s Green Revolution In Africa and Iowa Read More
Hans Herren, a smiling older man with gray hair, glasses, and a beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #171".
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Hans Herren: Controlling Pests With Biology Read More
A smiling older woman with short brown hair is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #170".
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Alice Waters: Organic Food In Our Schools Now Read More
Barbara Gemmill-Herren, a smiling older woman with long blonde hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #169".
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Barbara Gemmill-Herren: Big Chem’s Eyes Are On Africa Read More
Zephyr Teachout, a smiling woman with long blonde hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #168".
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Zephyr Teachout: Today’s Antimonopoly Movement Has Legs Read More
Seth Godin, a bald man with glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #166".
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Seth Godin: No Society Thrives With Monopolies Read More
Allan Savory, a smiling older man with glasses and headphones, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #165".
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Allan Savory: Desertification’s Causes, Problems + Solutions Read More
Austin Frerick, a smiling man with short brown hair and earbuds, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #164".
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Austin Frerick: Modern Day Robber Barons Rule Our Food Read More
Vandana Shiva, a woman with graying hair and a red dot on her forehead, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #158".
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Vandana Shiva: False Claims Of The Green Revolution Now and Then Read More
Karl Hammer, a smiling older man with a white beard, glasses, and a cap, is featured outdoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #149".
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Karl Hammer: Imagining A Photosynthetic Food System Read More
Zephyr Teachout, a woman with blonde hair and a microphone, speaks for the "Real Organic Podcast #148".
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Zephyr Teachout at Churchtown: Break’em Up Read More
Dan Barber, a smiling man in a white chef's coat, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #142".
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Dan Barber: The Power Of Deliciousness Read More
Mark and Kristin Kimball, two smiling light-skinned individuals, are featured together for the "Real Organic Podcast #131".
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Mark and Kristin Kimball: Holistic Farming Goes Beyond Food Production Read More
Dick Schwartz, a man with graying hair and a mustache, is featured outdoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #126".
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Dick Schwartz: Internal Family Systems + Social Activism Read More
Melissa Aronczyk, a woman with long dark hair and glasses, is featured in front of bookshelves for the "Real Organic Podcast #112".
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Melissa Aronczyk: How Corporate Public Relations Coopts Environmental Sustainability Read More
Charlotte Vallaeys, a woman with shoulder-length brown hair, is featured indoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #110".
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Charlotte Vallaeys Pt 2: Why Organic Is Worth Fighting For Read More
Charlotte Vallaeys, a smiling light-skinned woman with shoulder-length brown hair, is featured outdoor for the "Real Organic Podcast #108".
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Charlotte Vallaeys Pt 1: The Pitfalls Of Outcome Based Agriculture Read More
Will Brinton, an older light-skinned man with a white beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #107".
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Will Brinton Pt 2: Can Carbon Sequestration Ever Outpace Emissions? Read More
Will Brinton, an older light-skinned man with a white beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #106".
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Will Brinton: Carbon Sequestration Is All About Plants, Not Soil Read More
Liz Carlisle, a smiling light-skinned woman with long brown hair, is featured outdoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #102".
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Liz Carlisle Pt 2: Healing Grounds And Reciprocal Relationships Read More
Liz Carlisle, a smiling light-skinned woman with long brown hair, is featured outdoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #101".
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Liz Carlisle Pt 1: Agroecology And The Green Revolution Read More
Vandana Shiva, a woman with graying hair and a red dot on her forehead, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #100".
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Vandana Shiva: The Poison Cartel Should Get Their Own Label Read More
Paul Hawken, an older man with white hair and glasses, gestures while speaking for the "Real Organic Podcast #099".
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Paul Hawken Pt 2: In Favor Of Complex Systems Read More
Paul Hawken, an older man with white hair and glasses, gestures while speaking for the "Real Organic Podcast #098".
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Paul Hawken Pt 1: Social Dynamics Of Food, Farming, and Climate Change Read More
David Weinstein, an older man with glasses and a long white beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #076".
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David Weinstein: Owning And Fixing The Shortcomings Of Organic Read More
Bob Quinn, a smiling older light-skinned man wearing a cowboy hat, is featured outdoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #074".
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Bob Quinn Pt 1: Organic Grain Farming Vs. Chemical Grain Farming Read More
Alan Lewis, a light-skinned man with glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #068".
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Alan Lewis: Corruption and Anticompetitiveness in Dairy Read More
Melinda Hemmelgarn, a smiling woman with curly brown hair and earbuds, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #059".
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Melinda Hemmelgarn: Connecting Nutrition To Soil Read More
Leah Penniman, a smiling woman with brown skin and dark hair, is featured outdoors with flowers for the "Real Organic Podcast #055".
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Leah Penniman: Ecological Healing Means Putting Land Back Into Indigenous Hands Read More
Michael Pollan, a smiling bald man with glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #053".
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Michael Pollan: Antitrust and Democracy at Your Dinner Table Read More
Alan Lewis, a light-skinned man with glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #044".
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Alan Lewis: Why Real Farm Food Is Rarely Found In Stores Read More
Woody Tasch, a smiling man with glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #043".
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Woody Tasch: Investing In Your Local Soil With Slow Money Read More
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Walter Jehne: The True Costs Of Cheap Food Read More
Walter Jehne, a smiling older man with a white beard, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #038".
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Walter Jehne: Hydrology, Desertification, And Climate Read More
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Didi Pershouse: Water, Water, Water And The Soil Carbon Sponge Read More
Michael Phillips, a smiling man with a mustache and a cap, is featured outdoors for the "Real Organic Podcast #035".
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Michael Phillips: Restoring Degraded Lands with Outrageous Biodiversity and Fungal Networks Read More
Annelise Orleck, a smiling woman with short white hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #033".
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Annelise Orleck: Invisible Farm Workers + Unconscious Consumers Read More
David Grinspoon, a man with glasses, a beard, and a hat with red, yellow, and green stripes, is featured in front of bookshelves for the "Real Organic Podcast #030".
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David Grinspoon: Childhood’s End: What Kind Of Planet Changers Do We Want To Be? Read More
John Ikerd, an older man with white hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #029".
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John Ikerd Part Two: Scaling Organic Farms To Fit Nature And Communities Read More
John Ikerd, an older man with white hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #028".
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John Ikerd Part One: Industrial Food Can Never Be Sustainable Read More
David Montgomery, a smiling man with a mustache and long brown hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #027".
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David Montgomery: Clever Modern Technology vs Ancient Soil Wisdom Read More
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Anne Bikle Part Two: From Soil to Gut Read More
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Anne Bikle: Digging Into The Soil Microbiome Read More
Bill McKibben, a man with glasses and thinning light hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #024".
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Bill McKibben: Winning The Climate Argument But Losing The Fight Read More
Allan Savory, a smiling older light-skinned man with glasses, is featured in front of an animal-themed backdrop for the "Real Organic Podcast #023".
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Allan Savory: Regreening the Planet With Livestock Read More
Stuart Hill, a smiling older man with a bald head and glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #021".
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Stuart Hill: Sustainable Farming Intuitive Knowledge + Feedback Loops Read More
Vincent Stanley, an older light-skinned man with white hair and earbuds, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #018".
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Vincent Stanley The Power of Private Companies Working to Protect Earth Read More
Onika Abraham, a smiling woman with dark skin and glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #015".
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Onika Abraham Voting With Your Fork Won’t End Food Apartheid Read More
Seth Godin, a smiling bald man with yellow glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #011".
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Seth Godin The Powerful Story of the Organic Movement | Episode Eleven Read More
Joan Gussow, a smiling older woman with short white hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #010".
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Joan Gussow Tying Nutrition to Agriculture is Long Overdue | Episode Ten Read More
Paul Hawken, a smiling older light-skinned man with glasses, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #002".
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Paul Hawken Extractive Capitalism’s Toll on Food, Farming, + Life | Episode Two Read More
Dan Barber, a light-skinned man with curly brown hair, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #003".
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Dan Barber Chasing Fertility And America’s Absent Food Culture | Episode 3 Read More
Leah Penniman, a woman with brown skin and a colorful headwrap, is featured for the "Real Organic Podcast #004".
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Leah Penniman Revolution Based On Land | Episode Four Read More
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Paul Hawken Pt 2: In Favor Of Complex Systems Read More
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